Offhand matrix | 2 minute tests of Windfury Rockbiter Flametongue Frostbrand

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Q:
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A: I use Windfury on my mainhand weapon and also on my offhand.  Why? I want more WF procs.  More WF procs = More WF swings and more damage.  This will almost always beat any other weapon buff.

I set out to do a lot of tests and get some data vs. Flametongue & Frostbrand & Rockbiter.  I just ran out of time to do more data gathering, but I came up with a starting set of 2 minute tests.  I believe non-WF buffs on your weapons will yield consistent damage, but it will be lower in total than off-hand Windfury will produce for you.

Tests all included the following setup…

  • Drop down only 2 totems: Strength of Earth and Grace of Air
  • 1 Lightning Bolt to start the test
  • 2 minutes of constant autoattack along with
  • Bloodlust Brooch trinket activated whenever it was ready
  • Stormstrike whenever it was ready

 That’s all.  No Heroism, no potions, no food buffs, no extra shocks.  I just left combat after 2 minutes and here’s the results.

  1. 2 Minute Test w/Windfury main & Windfury offhand
  2. 2 Minute Test w/Windfury main & Rockbiter offhand
  3. 2 Minute Test w/Windfury main & Flametongue offhand
  4. 2 Minute Test w/Windfury main & Frostbrand offhand

Looks like the average damage has Windfury offhand the best with 1019 dps, Flametongue 2nd with 953 dps, Rockbiter next and Frostbrand last with 793 dps.  You mileage may vary especially when crit rates are hard to measure reliably … but hey… welcome to being an Enhancement Shaman!

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As you can see here, the number of hits varies as well as crit %, but I want to point out one key stat among all 4 offhand buffs: the % of Windfury from you. 

  • w/Windfury offhand: 32% of total attacks are Windfury
  • w/Rockbiter offhand:  24% of total attacks are Windfury
  • w/Flametongue offhand: 23% of total attacks are Windfury
  • w/Frostbrand offhand: 20% of total attacks are Windfury

But, hey Asirae, what about Rockbiter?  The Rockbiter offhand buff produces a higher average Windfury damage (ignoring the crit % of course).  What gives?

Rockbiter does produce an average Windfury damage of 842.  Nice indeed.  Better than a Windfury offhand buff average Windfury damage of 639.  However, a Windfury offhand buff increases the total Windfury procs (in this case the offhand of Windfury increased the number of procs by 25%).  The total damage output of Windfury (both mainhand and offhand procs) wins over the average Windfury damage gained by using Rockbiter purely by having more Windfury procs. 

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11 Responses to “Offhand matrix | 2 minute tests of Windfury Rockbiter Flametongue Frostbrand”


  1. 1 CowconTroll January 31, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Wow wery wery nice blogg!
    Im currently resto on my shaman, but we have alot healers atm, so im starting to collect enhancement gear, gonna try get off hand from UB heroic today;-) i added you to my shaman blogg list aswell:-)

  2. 2 Pyung February 13, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    Maybe I’m being silly, but…doesn’t the wf/wf setup have a lower average windfury damage because of the offhand procs? Rockbiter doesn’t actually add damage to your windfury.

  3. 3 asirae February 13, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    @Pyung: No. I didn’t see a lower proc rate for the combined WF/WF setup. Will perform another long 10 minute test to see if I need to correct this.

  4. 4 Tantra April 11, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    This will depend on the weapons you have equiped. The patch change to put both windfury buffs on the same timer means that if your offhand is too fast and a bit crap (like mine is atm) then it will probably rob windfury procs off your main weapon (as the faster offhand has more chance to hit before the main hand when windfury timer expires) , and in this respect it would probably be better to use rockbiter on the offhand.

  5. 5 Chuckchuck April 17, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    Great site. I was looking for some information on this because I also have been told that double wf is the best, then i was told that wf/ft was the best. I currently use two weapons with a speed of 2.80. I believe that with these weapons wf/wf would be my best bet. Can anyone confirm this or even offer further information?

    Thanks.

  6. 6 asirae April 18, 2008 at 6:30 am

    Chuck and Tantra: good ideas. mixing imbues will not increase dps over dual WF. Prove me wrong! run a test or two and show me.

    I’ll try to test it out too, but I need to stop having fun now. ;)

  7. 7 Shaidarharan April 26, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Hi
    with your test setup and 2,5s or slower weapon i must agree with you.
    WF/WF is the best setup.

    But what happeneds if you put in lava lash on CD also with glyph of lava lash equiped and try with WF/FT.
    + Add EC and instant LB´s on CD also, maby even add Static chock + imp Lightning shield togather with Concussion and elemental fury talents.

    I´m rally crappy at testing things out, but from my experience i find that with the 35% damage bonus on lava lash + the extra spellpower from FT weapon i get an overall higher damage output thanks to the boost on lava lash earth chock instant LB´s and orb hits.

    Not sure what builds you are running but this is what i find the best DPS setup “http://thottbot.com/shaman/t#EUg1/gFYFz.YTj3″.

    If you have the chanse i´d love to se a damage calculation on that build.

  8. 8 Anonymous May 3, 2010 at 3:22 am

    Your not using lava lash douche -_-

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